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  • We are currently at option b for the most part and it isn't working

    You're mixing up private companies' and the State's roles imo.

    It would be worth your while looking at the current legislation here and in Scotland. We have laws that deal with this. Policing them is the challenge.

    I also genuinely think that you seriously underestimate how much the dictatorial line on controlling speach line backfires and plays into right and small-c conservative naratives of the left.

  • I also genuinely think that you seriously underestimate how much the dictatorial line on controlling speach line backfires and plays into right and small-c conservative naratives of the left.

    Not really following what you mean here, could you elaborate?

  • Sure.

    In a nutshell you prove their point and give them amo.

    Rightwing and conservatives characterise the left as being coercive, anti-free speach, anti-civil liberties, and fundamentally authoritarian, and if you "give them a finger, they'll take your hand". They'd point to say the expansion of the racial hatred laws to include religious hatred as an eg of this scale.

    You can counter this, but it becomes really hard when you simultaneously call for the state to create and enforce laws limiting individual and corporate free speach based on one group's opinions of what is right/wrong at this current point in time.

    Take the eg of the sorts of people who say "you can't say anything anymore". You say that's bollocks, give me an eg. They say; being arrested for having a Nazi pug.

    How do you respond?

    Oh well that's Scotland? That wouldn't happen in England or Wales? The dude owned a pug which proves he's a cunt so fuck him and all the basic French Bulldog owners too?

    That sort of thing polarises a lot of people, including people you can reason with. If Brexit etc. should have taught us anything it's that engaging / convincing the middle ground is key.

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