EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

being handed out today

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The EU won't renegotiate.

They’ve consistently said that if the UK government’s red lines change, then they will renegotiate.

Facts checked here - https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-list-about-lisbon-treaty-wrong/
tl;dr its mostly bullshit or contextually misleading

Never too late to learn. Right?!

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1111676965130518528?s=21

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Very well done by parliament today. CSU Weber not very happy with the possibility of any English in the new EU parliament, so next week is going to be interesting.

She’s bringing it back 4th time lucky? Unbelievable

They’ve consistently said that if the UK government’s red lines change, then they will renegotiate.

The PD, not the WA though. And, at this point, who could blame them?

The WA as-is doesn't stop anything that we can come up with in the indicative process etc, but it does stop a hard-border in Ireland, protect citizens rights and of course the payment/s to the EU.

#rep

Stealing for fb thumbs.

What? Link please?

I'm tempted to pop into my local Brexispoons to see if Tim Martin is giving away consolatory 'Sold Down the River' drinks.

The only thing we can be remotely sure of in this whole sorry mess is that Marina Hyde will be on point:

There’s a photo from Pompeii that’s been doing the internet rounds a while, showing the plaster cast of a naked man. He appears to have died masturbating, even as he must have known the Vesuvian ash-cloud was approaching. Did he? Science says it’s a bit more complicated than that – but science isn’t important right now, because in every psychological aspect, that guy is the Conservative party.

stephen kinnock mp - man talks sense. shame more mps not like him

Facts checked here - https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-list-a­bout-lisbon-treaty-wrong/
tl;dr its mostly bullshit or contextually misleading

'There's a lot wrong with this viral list about the Lisbon Treaty'

I see what they did there.

This list thing really shows you the extent of misinformation that's out there--red bus eat your heart engine out.

Nice little article on the Erasmus programme and language learning:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/22/erasmus-opportunity-brexit-social-mobility-students

Seeing the march to leave on the news tonight and hearing the usual "leave means leave" and "not leaving betrays democracy" bullshit rhetoric makes my blood boil. Many of the people I knew who voted leave did so on the basis of the £250m a week for the NHS which isn't something brexit will deliver. It frustrates me so much that the general media overlook this critical fact that the referendum was (narrowly) won on lies and inciting hatrid in the naive. To me that's the biggest betrayal of democracy.

There's a deadlock in Parliament and no one can get "brexit" through because it wasn't defined what that actually meant at the time of the referendum and still isn't now. Those campaigning for it didn't have a plan and abandoned the sinking ship whilst it was still in dock. It's an impossible job to deliver something that's merely a concept of hatrid.

To me the only way forward is a 2nd referendum with 2 options, leave with no deal and remain. Everyone hates the WA as it doesn't give anyone what they wanted.

I genuinely believe that now the reality of brexit is better understood (ie no tangible benefits and a damaged economy for generations) then remain would win by a decent majority. But if that wasn't the case and leave was still the more popular option I'd be pissed off but I'd accept it and also accept the "will of the people" argument much more than I do today.

I realise I'm stating the bloody obvious with all the above but I just needed to say it somewhere as no one else seems to be doing so.

11pm, still in the EU...

I wonder if A&E departments are being overrun as the more gammony brexiteurs burst their stents?

Seemed appropriate! Cheers.

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Cheers

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people are saying it - the biggest vote for any of the "indicative votes" in parliament on wednesday was for a peoples vote - 1 million (supposedly) people marched in london last saturday calling for one- james o'brien on lbc puts the case very well on a regular basis too - and many more

Newsnight, on catch up.
How disgraced does a public figure have to be before the BBC will deny them the oxygen of publicity?
Toby effing Young! I thought he had been chased out of public life for his sexist bigoted views?

that royal mail card is lols

Let me guess: the London anti brexit march was way smaller than the second vote / remain one?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47755611

Meanwhile vote leave has ran out of money to appeal their electoral commission fine.

Seems the gammons aren't chipping in to help them. Unless they are not allowed to crowdsource cash?

Peak Bradshaw

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