• Thanks for the useful feedback @Chak I did look at the Cutthroat too, will give it a closer inspection. The Secan is probably perfect, but their obscure pricing, long lead times and an interview I saw with the owner claiming to be some kind of bike design messiah put me off the brand.

    @Hazzles when I first posted the OP I didn't really intend this to become a name and shame of spooky, I was just after info about the re-heat treating question. Everyone makes mistakes (me included) and in the end they have owned up to theirs and tried to do the right thing (or at least everything possible that was available to them) to put it right. So I won't air further dirty laundry on here. But I'll PM you.

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