• If 'we' don't accept the votes of MPs who have some or one redeeming feature...

    We don't "accept" votes. We don't enter into the equation.

    What we don't have to do is applaud people simply because one of their opinions coincides with one of ours.

    But people can be Grieve fanboys if they want. I'm sure a number of people on here think austerity has been the right thing.

  • 'We' are anyone who opposed the flatearth brexiteur Brexit in any way,
    writing to an MP, joining a local campaign, or attending either of the Marches,
    any one who has in any way contributed to counter the oft-repeated claim by the
    media hogging brexiteurs who claim, without demur from their interviewers,
    'All I hear in my constituency is 'Get on with It''.

    I hope we have passed, forever*, the time when parliamentary majorities allow the 'Winner' to ignore the 'Loser'. Consensus can only be achieved by finding common ground,
    on each invididual topic. Welcoming Dominic Grieve 'seeing the light' over brexit does not give him a free pass on being a Universal Benefit supporting Tory.

    We will need a couple of more enlightened Parliaments until this is achieved.

  • We will need a couple of more enlightened Parliaments until this is achieved.

    We'll also need a significantly more sophisticated electorate who can see the world other than in black and white absolutes. Sadly, as this thread sometimes shows, we are not there yet.

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