• if consensus isn't reached, it opens the door to revocation or a people's vote as all democratic options within parliament will have been exhausted.

    Revocation would require not just the consensus that had just been (yet again) shown to not exist, it would require some strong leadership to drive a decision that most MPs who secretly think it's a good idea are scared of.

    A people's vote has more chance because

    1. MPs can say "I'm only voting for this because all those other bastards wouldn't agree with my sensible proposals". 650 people standing in a circle, wishing they had 649 arms to point and blame all the others.
    2. A lot of the blame for what happens next can be offloaded to "the people".

  • Will there be an amendment on MV3 to try to turn it into a confirmation vote?

    That will be interesting....Imagine if the confirmation amendment passes - would the government then still support their own Meaningful Vote?

  • I couldn't say. I was at somebody's leaving drinks last night and didn't reconnect with this thread till the morning. As a result, I no longer know what's been happening and it'll take hours of synching between here, Twitter and the various editorials before I'm back on track.

  • I assume when she brings it back for MV3 that's when the Kyle amendment will be raised. Requires full Labour whipping and a good chunk of pro remain Torry support to pass though, would be super tight.

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