• fair enough, fwiw, i'm generally referring to the sort of neoliberal welfare reformers exemplified by cameron, osborne and their enablers in the wider conservative party and the lib dems. hell, you can chucka fair few Labour culprits on that pile as well.

    There seems to be no shortage of people in this very thread who seem all too ready to overlook the impact and eventual fallout of austerity on some of the most vulnerable parts of society, if only for a few crumbs of validation from the architects of this shitshow, which is disappointing.

    Of course i am conflating "centrism" with "neoliberalism", which isn't really that much of a stretch, at least not from where i'm sat. Seems the neolibz are more concerned with tackling the direction of brexit rather than accepting their role in how we got here in the first place.

  • exemplified by cameron, osborne and their enablers in the wider conservative party and the lib dems

    I'm not sure they were really centrists - certainly I wouldn't label them as such and some of what they did was extreme. I'd label the early Blair years as more 'centrist', and people like Osbourne and Cameron just seemed to dress and behave the same to try to appeal to the same supporters.

    I'm sure someone (possibly you) will step in to say how awful those early Blair years were, but at the time they stood out as one of the few times I've experienced positive politics and its effects in this country.

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