Harry Quinn - Frameset - Early 1960s (Restored)

SOLD -- Harry Quinn - Road Frame and Fork - ca. 1963 -- SOLD

Spec...

• 21 inch frame
  
• Seat tube: 54cm c-to-top / 53.5cm c-to-c
  
• Top tube: 53.5cm c-to-c
  
• takes 700c wheels
  
• 120mm rear spacing
  
• 27.2mm seatpost
  
• British threaded BB
  
• 1 inch British threaded headset
  
  

About the frame...
A proper Harry Quinn with Q---- stamped frame number (Q made using an O with a 1 stamped through it) to prove it. Further 3 digit number under this that corresponds to the 3 digits stamped on the fork steerer, showing this is original to frame.

From the frame number, I believe it dates to around 1963. Although HQs frame numbering did jump around, so it is very hard to be 100% sure on date. The simple lug pattern (I think these are one of the many Prugnat variants) and lovely internally lugged, sloping fork crown are also indicative of the early '60s when many UK frame builders were moving away from the intricate '50s lugs, to the simpler 'continental' style. When I bought this it also still had many of it's original parts. These also dated to early '60s. Early Campag Record drivetrain/gear parts dating to early part of '60s (2nd Gen front mech, 1st Gen rear, Bar end shifters and 151 BCD 3rd Gen crankset), Universal 61 brakes and levers etc. As well as the nice clean lugs, and sloping fork crown, the clean frame style is also carried on through very neat wrap over seatstays and all finished off with Campag fork and rear ends.

I reckon this was intended as a bike for fast road work or even the odd TT. It has relatively tight clearances for time, no mudguard eyes, and was designed to be built up with bar end rather than downtube shifters - small braze ons on downtube directly accept gear cables by means of ferrules with small step. (Ferrules will be included with any sale). I also have a set of 60s/70s Campag bar-end shifters if buyer is interested in building up with this type of shifter.

Condition...
I refurbished this about 4 years ago and it has seen minimal use since. Lucky if it's ventured 200 miles since respray. It was badged incorrectly when I got it, with new wheels added that were stickered and dated by builder to 1971 (Locknut dating also corresponded). Looks to have been a first respray, my guess wheels were updated at that time. This respray was done via Kevin Sayles at Woodrup and I had him retrack frame and forks to ensure all good, straight prior to painting. It is finished in simple black enamel with gold lug lining and very nice repro transfers in gold from H Lloyd. Pretty classy! Paint is still very, very good. Only blemishes are small, light marks from front mech clamp on seat tube, on drop outs from fitting wheels and on top tube from brake cable clamps.

Included with frame...
Will include ferrules for gear cable stops and metal braided cable for the small cable runs - over bb to front mech and from chainstay stop to rear mech.
Also include top tube cable clips. Original REG branded. Pretty much perfect. Will line up with the tiny marks from where they have been fitted.

Photos below. Included photos of bike built up to indicate geometry, clearances etc.

SOLD -- PRICE: £230.00 (+post) -- SOLD
Was £240.00 (+post)

Post should be about £15.00 in UK via Parcelforce.
Paypal F+F preferred or plus 4% fees.

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More photos...

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lovely. Too small for me thankfully. good luck with the sale.

Thanks. Sadly, too small for me in the top tube too. I love how simple and clean looking a frame it is. Was actually built up for my dad, but he admired it rather than rode it. I'd been thinking to build it back up with modern vintage looking parts so it'd be less precious. The simple frame aesthetics lends itself to it. Had to concede it's just too short for me. Hopefully it'll find a new (smaller) owner and be less of an ornament!

Reduced to £230 +insured post

(Also, another photo of headtube as previous ones make it look like there's a paint chip)

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Interested where are you based

I'm in Edinburgh

Ah ok, we are in London. Frame is for my wife. We will measure up and get back to you. Is bike better set up with bar end shifters or modern rather than downtube. The frame is beautiful.

I'd say ideally it's best with bar end shifters, but easy enough to adapt to use anything. I say barend shifter best, as the braze-ons on downtube are designed to accept a gear cable directly, there's no braze on for down tube shifters. These braze on stops also need a stepped ferrule to accept a regular gear cable outer (I have a couple that I would include).

If you wanted downtube shifters, you could easily use clamp on type, run the cable with outer to the braze on then cable inner to the levers. Don't even think the position of the braze on cable stops would make band on down tube shifters any lower on tube than normal.

Equally, nothing to stop you running modern shifters, I've never had it set up modern, but don't see why you couldn't. You'd just be best to use an inline cable adjuster to be able to finely adjust tension on front mech. The barrel adjuster on rear mech would do the job there. Was easy to get away without any adjusted for front mech on a vintage setup, but modern ones need more finely tuned I guess.

The only other thing I think you'd need for modern and some vintage setups, is a clamp on cable stop on seat tube for front mech. It's designed for early Record front mech which had a built in cable stop that accepts a short run of outer cable from downtube. I used a short run of the braided metal outer type cable from the downtube stop to the mech. I'd include this with frame too, and also a piece for chainstay to rear mech in case of use.

Hope that's useful info and not too exhaustive! Just give me a shout if you need to know anything else.

Here's better details of the cable stop so you can see clearly what they are like...

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Thanks so much for all the info and additional pictures. Think would maybe go with bar end option if frame fits. Wife back in afternoon, will measure & get back in touch shortly.
Best

No problem at all. Happy to help.

Hey man think the size will work
Will take it, excited to build this up,
Give shout and I will organise payment
Hamish

Excellent. I'll drop you a message.