EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

If they can't come up with a decent solution they should take it back to the people. Choice of hard brexit, May's deal or cancel the whole thing. The politicians have made it very clear they think May's deal is crap and a hard brexit is terrible.

Personally if that happened and hard brexit or May's deal won it wouldn't be my choice and I'd be unhappy with the result, but at least there would be clarity around what 'the will of the people' is so I'd have to accept it.

Yup, but would be good to know who I should be voting for to keep out a Brexiteer, could end up being a Pro-EU Tory might be the best bet to keep out a Pro-Brexit party member, hope this makes sense!

Splitting the leave vote - handy.

Would you have, "here's three options - pick your top two. If no option has over 50% on first count, second choice is totted up too?"

I think they should have "no deal" vs "Remain", but on the ballot paper, no deal should be written "Crash out".

Crash out/get fucked Northern Ireland to be even more accurate ;)

They don’t even need to vote.

Wait and see who the candidates are...

If we do get MEP votes I'd hope the turnout would be very high. Every remainer for sure should be voting.

I'd vote Green, personally, they are the only ones to come out of this with any shred of integrity. Plus, progressive policies, and dying planet.

I see - sorry. You were probably clear, I just didn't read what you'd said properly :)

I wondered out many Independants would stand on a remain ticket, not that they can influence Westminster but it would send a message.

No leader could put Remain alongside No Deal and Something Else.

If they did they get put in to the vilification quadrant.

My thoughts also, if a majority of Remain MEP's are elected, it would surely send a message that people have changed their minds.

If the UK does have an election for MEPs this year,
aren't EU nationals, (who were disqualified from the referendum), allowed to vote?

Isn't it the case we can't have a 3 option referendum? It has to be 2 options only?

Ballot paper 3rd draft:

A: Crash out (get fucked Northern Ireland)
or
B: Remain (we'll still make the passports blue)

You can always vote for your MEPs by registering to vote in your birth country via post.

It is the UK MPs that EU furrin's like me can't vote for. [and we can no longer vote in local elections atm after Brexit, which may or may not get sorted...]

If we add "permaban Cameron AND blue passports" that may just swing it :p

B: Remain, blue passports, publish the pig photos

I don't see how this would appease any of the groups, but then again I have no idea what is going on at the moment.

Keep up dear chap!

Hot off the press - indicative votes next week, whatever they are.

Can someone explain indicative votes? Is it like the elimination race in the omnium?

Edit - also over 3 million men, women, children and russian bots have now signed the revoke petition. Could be the biggest one ever in time for the march tomorrow.

Would you have, "here's three options - pick your top two. If no option has over 50% on first count, second choice is totted up too?"

That's almost Single Transferable Vote. After the first round, ballots whose first choice lost would be split between the remaining options according to their second choice.

Students union use this for electing officers.

indicative votes

MPs get to pick which flavour of cake they would like to be rejected by EU27.

MPs get to pick which flavour of cake they would like to be rejected by EU27.

Are they like those ones they had the other week? Where they can say that they want but it's not binding.
Then when there's a decision to make that is binding, they can all go mental again and vote the other way.

Sure - why not. Sounds really helpful.

Seems bots are not gaming the petition: https://britorbot.org/2019/03/22/revoke-article-50-petition/

What is going on with the "data not shown" signatures?

Can those not be bots? [ stockpiles tinfoil ]

It's not meant to! @Howard asked me what would be a sensible way forward.

If there are other potential options they could be added to the ballot, but there aren't, are there?

stockpiles tinfoil

Bacofoil was bought by a German firm in 2015 but it's still made in the UK according to their website so I don't think this is necessary.