• Sure, to understand the true split you'd need to have another referendum...

    I think its the natural reaction to May claiming she speaks for the public - I just don't know how she can say this. The referendum was nearly 50/50, there is no evidence that the population has got more behind leaving in the following three years, so saying she speaks for the public as a whole when she patently does not needs calling out.

    A petition growing at super speeds, plus a massive march at the weekend, is the best way we have at the moment to show politicians that it is not anything like how May is calling it.

    At this point, it only needs to effect the thinking of one or two MPs and therefore be enough to change the course of things. These votes are likely to be on a knife edge. This is the only time I can recall when something like this actually has a chance of significantly influencing political decisions being made right now.

  • I just don't know how she can say this. The referendum was nearly 50/50, there is no evidence that the population has got more behind leaving in the following three years, so saying she speaks for the public as a whole when she patently does not needs calling out.

    I didn't listen to her speech - it's too painful - but is she claiming she speaks for the public (wrong, she can't - the public are divided), or that she's trying her best to sort out something intractable for the public (good, or rather, least shit)? You could only claim the later, right?

  • Sadly the former. 'I'm on your side', 'what you want', 'what you're telling me'...etc. One of the most ill-judged, tone-deaf speeches I've ever heard.

  • According to polls .... Most popular positions with the public currently are;

    1. 2nd referendum (what choice?)
    2. No deal leave

    So yeah. Her position isn’t reflective of the public’s unless you count people’s second choice ... in which case The Deal (that doesn’t completely throw NI under the bus) would probably win (but that’s just speculation - no data)

    It’s a mess, but everyone should just vote for the deal.

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