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Bumping these with an update and price drop.
After deciding to try them again i thought it'd be clever to use my shoe covers to protect them. One 10 mile ride later there is now some very minor red staining visible on the tongue slits (oh how i laughed...) and i'm sure these shoes won't work for me. I'll stick a close up pic of the marking later but i've dropped the price to £115 to suit.