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• #55727
Yeah, that was him.
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• #55728
Foreign aid worker gets his UK citizenship revoked. Deep. Sigh.
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• #55729
Stripping citizenship of people born in the uk but may be eligible for citizenship of another country through their parents heritage is pretty dodgy. Anyone with an Irish nan could have their uk citizenship taken away if the home office say so.
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• #55730
Yeah, it's a slippery slope for sure. We should taking responsibility for our citizens. Aid workers, terrorists, terrorists wives and all.
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• #55731
is pretty dodgy
No, it's what the Nazis did, that's what it is.
This is not just a bit iffy or something, if that person has no other actual citizenship, then it is illegal under international law, period, end of discussion.
In this case however, it seems the guy might have Pakistani citizenship? Which would make it not technically illegal, but still an incredibly incredibly shitty move. Par for the course considering it's the Home Office though.
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• #55732
Using gammon logic he is probably a dirty forrin with aids.
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• #55733
I guess their position is a person who is eligible for another country’s citizenship is not technically stateless. And they’ll take it all the way through the courts and drag it out. In the meantime those people are in limbo and will probably be forced to apply for the other citizenship.
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• #55734
Which means all Jewish people can have their British citizenship revoked.
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• #55735
Guy grows up in London, loves the place, goes and risks life and limb to offer aid. Should that not be a sterling example of what the UK aspires to be? Courage, helping others, that sorta thing...
No, let's take his citizenship cos he's too furrin and in Syria. What is one supposed to do...
[I'd say that as furrin' of course, should I aspire to be May? Or perhaps Harold Wilson? Who has "the british values" here? I don't see how May is tolerant and all that...but those values are in the official book. Of course every country is schizophrenic and lies about itself, but the HO is taking the proverbial a lot!]
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• #55736
shameful from the home office.
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• #55737
And just about everyone in Northern Ireland. The backstop won't be an issue if we send them all home. Clever.
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• #55738
It's amazing... Australia trying to do a similar thing with nationals who've gone to the middle east to join Isis, you can't just strip someone's citizenship because you don't agree with them, no matter how fucking crazy they are they're still Australian...
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• #55739
I mean, surely popular logic should be that if an Australian citizen is really that bad, then put them in an Australian jail rather than banish them and leave them to fester, spread their idealogy further and potentially cause harm to Australia.
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• #55740
For want of a No shit Sherlock thread.
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• #55741
I think that's more in response to Maybot saying it wasn't.
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• #55742
Ah ok, move along.
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• #55743
I don't think it is obvious or proven that police numbers and violent crime are linked and the police are far from impartial in this. There have been cuts in police but there have also been cuts in things like youth services which perhaps means more people hanging around on streets.
The causes of violent crime can be very complex, for example the possible link with leaded petrol. I'd like to see Ms Dick produce the research she is using to justify spending money on policing rather than other intervention methods.
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• #55744
Akala is good on this subject.
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• #55745
I don't think it is obvious or proven that police numbers and violent crime are linked and the police are far from impartial in this.
In the absence of analysis (as if this would ever be published), it doesn't seem impossible that the two are correlated.
However, I'd be willing to bet that using a measure of 'per unit decrease in violent crime', a £ spent on the Police yields a much poorer return than £ spent on other things (schools, youth services, community projects etc).
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• #55746
I don't think it is obvious or proven that police numbers and violent crime are linked and the police are far from impartial in this.
This. It's tempting for opposition members/supporters to leap on board when the police criticise a Tory government, but it only fuels a narrative that will haunt them during their turn in government - and their people in local government now.
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• #55747
I think the logic is that there is a tipping point where you're not just talking about someone moving to the Costa d sol, but actually leaving your country to become part of a directly opposing state, that's counter to absolutely everything you believe in and has the explicit aim of destroying you...and then tries to destroy you.
Obviously it's a bit different in Oz where its mainly just drinking and beachwear that's diametrically opposed.
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• #55748
What an insightful guy. Shame about the clickbate title.
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• #55749
Interesting listing to Radcliffe speak about trans women competing in sport. The whole thing seems like a bit of a minefield
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• #55750
I laughed.
Billionaire diamond trader dies during penis enlargement surgery
Sounds like something Boris would do