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Tonts in reply to @tbc

I think the focus should be on holding to account the people and the party who put us in this position

This. But later.

rather than suggesting that the Labour leadership's circumspection is why we are where we are.

Labour's circumspection is more why they are where they are now. The lack of a willingness to engage on any key points re: brexit hasn't really helped the broader political conversation. Nor has corbyn's reluctance to come out and admit he was and remains pro-brexit, as the pro-remain/anti tory vote lent him a lot of good will last general election. And honestly, how the Lib Dems have failed so miserably to capitalise on any of this as a pro-remain party is baffling.

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user800813590210 in reply to @Tonts

All of the Lib Dem’s that were any good fucked off after the shafting they got in government. There’s a fair few of them in the anti brexit campaigns, from what I hear, but the rump that’s left in proper politics are the ones that are useless centerist dad types.

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