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"every time there has been a critical point in Labour - immediately after the referendum, immediately before we leave - there is an attempt to split the party to stop them trying to find a consensus solution."
Amazed to hear you say this. The way it looks to me is that every time there is a critical point for labour, the leadership do fuck all of use and that's what prompts discussions about breakaways.
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The split in the Labour Party is equally frustrating.
So much of the Brexit fuck up has been precipitated by petty factional struggles at times when the country deserves better. I'm sure it has been quite unpleasant being a centrist in Corbyn's Labour party, and the leadership has, by all accounts, done a very poor job of trying to keep the party together.
But it seems that every time there has been a critical point in Labour - immediately after the referendum, immediately before we leave - there is an attempt to split the party to stop them trying to find a consensus solution.
Do Umunna, Leslie, etc. really think that their metropolitan liberal elite party will be so attractive that other Labour MPs (and maybe some 'soft' Tories) will flock to them? Do they think that the young people who may be with them on Brexit, may not be with them on their approach to UK Politics?
For all that the Labour right and former left like Nick Cohen might emphasise Labour's failure, the general election suggested that on domestic policies, people (and not just the young) like what Labour have to say. Will they like whatever the 'pragmatic centre' come up with? Presumably a return to Labour trying to steal Conservative policies. Get your 'immigration control' mug back out.