• The advantage to my eyes is that you could do 8-speed electronic

    Who would want to? The kind of retrogrouches who want 8-speed are the same ones who still want their mechanical gear shifters (non-indexed, obvs.) on the down tube. I'm guessing well over half the people buying bikes with electric gears wouldn't even be able to change their own chain, so the nuances of backwards compatibility are unlikely to be their highest priority. Most of them are not weirdos like us, they are cycling enthusiasts rather than bike enthusiasts - the machine is a means, not an end, something for other people to fix and to be replaced frequently.

  • I'm in the weird bit of the Venn that couldn't give much of a toss about the bike but definitely wants Di2 and a powermeter and can replace a chain. Mummy always said I was special...

  • I'm in the weird bit of the Venn that couldn't give much of a toss about the bike but definitely wants Di2 and a powermeter and can replace a chain. Mummy always said I was special...

    I want Di2 and a powermeter and I can build my own frames. Everyone always says I'm special...

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