PhilDAS learns to glue (mostly) metal

Not a bad shout. Pictures are cool but I do like following a vlog. Hate the sound of my own voice so I’m not sure how easy it would be for me to narrate ha

Also there is a fb frame builders group, which is mostly annoying know it alls bragging about how revolutionary their lugged frames are, but there is an offshoot just for a equipment. I'll add you to both. My advise is mostly ignore the first one ;)

The one just titled ‘Framebuilders’?

Gotten a couple bits of useful info out of it but my recent post asking about remedies to my possibly over-reamed headtube quickly descended into arguments about the minutae of accurately measuring a circular hole and how many thousands of an inch constitutes a proper interference fit.

It’s also seems like one of those ones where you’ll be asking something about building a frame out your vice with a £200 oxy-propane setup and at least one person will tell you that unless you have an anvil jig and o-a and a medical grade clean room to put it all in then you might as well not bother.

Haha sounds like a right laugh

There does seem to be some people on it that want to be genuinely helpful.

arguments about the minutae of accurately measuring a circular hole and how many thousands of an inch constitutes a proper interference fit

Hah

Too much talk and not enough photos already. Get on with it!

Now the PhilGAS thread then

Touché

Phil Vandelay (see youtube link in CargoBikes thread) doesn't narrate, uses text instead. Scoble would approve.

Definitely following this, as I planned to do the same.
hopefully more setup pictures will follow

Subbed! Hoping to sort a very similar set up shortly, to start with frame mods and racks, oxy-propane too. Following with interest.

I’m gonna put an order in with Ceeway and I’m tossing up between going with one of their beginner “kits” which includes tubeset, lugs, bosses and enough brazing rod and flux. Basically everything you need to build a frame but the materials will be basic OR piecing together my own shopping list with better tubes and nicer lugs. It comes down to having everything I need cheaply but the end result being a very basic frame or spending a bit more and despite the fact that it won’t be very good, ending up with a frame which I will like more and may keep and ride longer.
Suggestions?
There’s a lot of numbers of ODs and angles to take in but I think I could get together a set of Zona tubes for not too much money and some oversize lugs with long tips which might be quite elegant.

More pictures of your kit please. There’s too much text here already and not enough pics of random bits of metal stuck together and accidental fires.

Fair, well I haven't started any fires yet, accidental or otherwise. I need to pick up some gas bottles first but that is the last puzzle piece really because I can't do anything until I have some material. I don't have a workshop so kit is minimal and I've no scraps for practise (if anyone has a broken steel frame I'll more than happily pick it up and cut it apart to stick together)

So far my kit consists of a Bahco file set as recommended by Hulsroy

And I've purchased some machined parts which will be needed to put together a jig of sorts since I don't have any milling machines or lathes to hand

I'll buy some Alu extrusion once the tube end holders arrive with (hopefully) instructions.

Torch is this one which @M_V pointed out to me
https://www.weldequip.com/oxy-propane-brazing.htm

Where'd you get the tube end holders from?

Bahco files look great but you can never have too many, there's an old toolshop near me that has a box of random files, I have a rummage every time I'm in and usually come away with one or two. Maybe there's something similar near you?

http://ideas2cycles.com/products/the-jig/

Yeah I will need some smaller files for details and getting inside tight angles. I might hit up a few local hardware stores and see if they have something similar

I have a lugged columbus SL frame with a cracked seatstay (at the top where it meets the seat tube). Free if collected from N16.

Awesome, will PM

If it's not too upsetting/private do you mind logging how much you spend/have already spent in total?

common! do it.

Managed to get the bahco files in a sale for £20
The torch kit was £173 with shipping
The jig bits were €104

Oh and this was £11.50 on amazon

Nice find with the machined parts for holding the tubes in a jig, I'll have a look at those, I'm in the same position of no workshop/machining tools. An alu extrusion jig certainly looks possible with those parts.

It'd be good to know how you get on with the torch, I've got a link saved to the same one from another thread. Good luck!

Read the Paterek Manual instead

If you want to save a bit of money I 3d printed the tubing supports for my jig, a ht puck and cone, st cone, bb supports and a dummy axle holder thing. I outsourced the printing and they came out pretty good. Not sure how it would fair for oxyfeul, i only tig. Tack in the jig and remove, so they dont get that warm and havent had any issues with melting. Happy to provide CAD files, but they are specific to the extrusion i used.

The PDF isn't online any more and to buy it is either expensive or Kindle only