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Ext hard drive - has only been used for time machine - not been moved, knocked, etc
some of the photos are there (ie - post 2012) the ones before that show the folders, but no photos
same sitch on bot icloud and the imac (although the imac does not seem to have any recent photos)
i'll try the recover thing then try your terminal window stuff.
i little bit of poo might try to come out, as i have zero skillz
thanks again.