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@Heldring have you not had them pop off when on rough terrain? (The sprung hooks at the top)
It’s happened to me loads of times. Maybe I’m just getting too rad.
The rixen kaul hooks Restrap use I find much more secure, they adapt to different diameter racks without the need for different inserts. Only downside is they aren’t as easy to adjust as ortlieb (need screwdriver) pros and cons both ways.
Really surprised neither of you has had issues with your ortliebs popping off.
TM
+1, although maybe I don't know what I'm missing out on