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  • how do people cope?

    they don't, shimano has fucked that design up, people just compensate in reach with shorter stem and/or shorter reach bars

  • is the reach better for the new 105 levers?

    I'm thinking of swapping to non-hydro if I decide to press buy on this

    really i just want everything to be 6800 4eva

  • is the reach better for the new 105 levers?

    no, the only thing shimano has improved reach on is Di2 Hydro, they are actually smaller than the mechanical Di2 this time, absolutely amazing.

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