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  • You said using a belt increases your output by 25%, so the belt has a direct affect.

    That's not quite what I wrote, or intended to portray.

    "Well I can press 25% more with a belt, compared to the point where the weight makes me mentally think twice"

    Having hurt my back countless times since childhood. Usually sneezing or putting on my socks, I'm possibly over protective of it over 40kg.
    Having previously done some of the remedial massage therapy work and then starting me into strength training, it was my coach that recommended putting on a belt for heavier presses (which have been up to 52kg). Speaking with him tonight, he couldn't understand why you would rather not wear one.

    The muscles that the belt is compensating for wonโ€™t be getting stronger.

    Its a 3 or 4" belt, hardly a magical exo skeleton that let's your core do cock all. Your whole kinetic chain is still supporting the load and a heavier load requires more overall muscle power to stabilise and lift.

    In the earlier Art of manliness video, Ripp has Brett put on a belt for the Press. Make of that what you will.

    Tonights session.
    Bench 3x5 @66kg pb
    Deadlift warmup to 110kg beltless
    1@120 then 5@126kg pb

  • For what it is worth I'm with the logic of @dbadger but can see the logic of using the belt. putting it in perspective tho I'd say its marginal so not worth worrying about.

    on another note, DL 126kg = strong back. what is that? 1.75 your body weight? you should feel confidence in your back (but do what you discuss with your coach obvs).

  • on another note, DL 126kg = strong back. what is that? 1.75 your body weight? you should feel confidence in your back (but do what you discuss with your coach obvs).

    Thanks. 126 was 1.7x bodyweight. Grip strength is becoming an issue with double overhand, so it's time to try reverse grip... Hopefully that's workable because hook grip is like slamming your thumb in a door ๐Ÿ˜ณ

    I'm certainly a lot more confident with my back, but Quadratus Lumborum still stays on way too much. Just not painful spasms so much now ๐Ÿ˜€

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