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  • I hear "you can't raise a child in a flat" all the time. Obviously it's total middle class bullshit, but it's a common opinion.

  • You can, IF there's a decent park and decent outdoor space.

  • I'm currently of that view, to an extent. I did grow up outside of a big city so I'm used to a garden, plenty of space, etc.

    The other side is that if I had a child in my flat I feel it would be pretty inconsiderate for my neighbours below me. I've lived in flats where there have been kids running around upstairs and screaming during the night and it's pretty annoying. Putting that on someone seems a bit selfish.

  • I was going to agree with you saying it's more of a cultural thing. Look at Berlin, Paris, NY, Barcelona they all manage to bring up kids in apartments.

    But then I wondered if its not more about the availability / achievability of a house or conversion with a garden. For eg a young Spainish guy I worked with years ago was adament about having a garden for his houseshare. They were all young on low incomes, but his point was London was the only big city where you can have outdoor space and not be a million miles away (or spending a fortune). Thinking about NYC - where would you have to move to to get a garden? Queens? Towards Coney Island?

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