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It’s not the groupset weight that I mean. There’s barely room for improvement on shifters and mechs. The frame will be significant, I’ve no experience with apex 11 speed but on 10 speed, apex to rival/force/red was a mega jump in terms of shifting. I’ve only had Rival 22 and Red 22 which are both as good functionally.
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Was it though? The barrels of the 10 speed stuff was all the same from rival onwards. It was the casing and paddles where the weight saving happens.
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Someone needs to clarify this. I suspect that all SRAM 11 speed hydro are done equally, but with more corners cut every step down.
That said it works pretty good, I was thinking in transplanting Ultegra 2x hydro, now I may just put some Force cranks
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I had a look before I got my bike and most parts look the same with a better paint. Even the whole Rival 1 group is just 50 grams lighter than Apex 1 hydro.