• I’d have preferred the alu one, 725 will probably be heavier. That said, Rival is a nice step up from apex usually

  • I had a look before I got my bike and most parts look the same with a better paint. Even the whole Rival 1 group is just 50 grams lighter than Apex 1 hydro.

  • It’s not the groupset weight that I mean. There’s barely room for improvement on shifters and mechs. The frame will be significant, I’ve no experience with apex 11 speed but on 10 speed, apex to rival/force/red was a mega jump in terms of shifting. I’ve only had Rival 22 and Red 22 which are both as good functionally.

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