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  • Well I just read something interesting.

    I did not know that Donald Trump quit the Republican party and ran for president as a centrist in 2000. He ran on a pro choice and pro gun control platform.

    He also nominated Oprah as his running mate.

    How the flying fuck does this get by his base?

  • How the flying fuck does this get by his base?

    Average American is insanely ignorant. Not stupid, or bad people, just clueless about the world around them.
    It is really shocking.
    For example, look at how many flat earthers and creationists there are, and there are places where creationism is taught as a valid theory.
    There are smart people, of course, but they are a minority.
    The upper class is doing everything it can to prevent the lower class from getting university education by making it impossibly expensive.

  • see also the documentary "Idiocracy"

  • I one met a girl in New York state, aged about 22, who asked me with total seriousness whether "you guys have roads in England?"

  • As someone who's lived a long time in both countries, I can assure that English people are equally stupid.

    And university is increasingly expensive in the US not because of some elitist-led conspiracy to keep the masses undereducated but because of the greed of banks and the willingness of Americans to take on massive debt. And your point is contradicted by the fact that university and graduate program enrollment is still higher than it was 15 years ago.

  • Average American is insanely ignorant. Not stupid, or bad people, just clueless about the world around them.

    It's harder, if you live in a small country, to ignore the countries around you. Easier if you live in the less cosmopolitan parts (that is, most of) a big country like the U.S. or Russia. And yet many in the U.K. manage all the same kinds of idiocy, including creationism being taught at schools.

    Up till recently we've heard a lot more about poorly educated/informed Americans than about their Brit equivalent. That probably says more about the relative openness of American society than the actual distribution of flat-earthers in both places. America has long had more routes for the less privileged to have a say (even if no more chance to have it heard and acted on) and Americans have had less inhibition about saying what they think.

    Having more exposure to the wider world doesn't necessarily make people any less stupid about it. After a century of constant access to American-generated entertainment, you can still hear Brits saying nonsensical things like "Americans don't do/get sarcasm."

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