• We can agree to disagree and perhaps I did a poor job in fully explaining why I think it deserves being placed here in only listing the visual evidence and not the conceptual/ideological ones.

    All of the things I listed out are in and of themselves completely forgettable but, in my opinion when you place those within the context of the aesthetic/style/subculture the owner is attempting to attach themselves to it elevates it from forgettable to a poor pastiche.

    They clearly want to to be considered cool/stylish/knowledgeable about fashion/trends otherwise why adorn it with a Carhartt sticker? And so it's this grabbing to part of something with minimal effort and no care that is so poor, completely style over substance, not dare I say it too dissimilar from a kid putting a big exhaust, wing, and underlights on their Micra.

  • I understand where you're coming from. The Carhartt sticker is actually anti, yeah. I didn't think the rest was really noteworthy though. As much as this thread is obviously for making fun of bike 'designs' that just went terribly wrong, I'm not a fan of 'gatekeeping' subcultures etc. - but especially not over things like valves or brake cables that are 'too long'.

    But maybe that's also just because I am definitely not a part of that subculture in any way, so I feel less annoyed be people clumsily copying it, and more annoyed by people making fun of other rider's builds.

  • Fair enough, and please don't take this the wrong way but is it not a touch hypocritical to complain about gatekeeping (which I agree with you about and to be clear my problem is the poor pastiche) but to read (and presumably take enjoyment from) a thread specifically created for the purposes of mockery?

    You may say there is a difference between the Jokfil's and the kind of bike we're talking about but if we really boil it down there isn't. One is company with one person's vision and the other is some other person's vision, why is one exempt from criticism and the other not because it's more outlandish?

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