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@The.Gren
As the one who kicked the hornets nest...
I mocked the welds, because I thought user87910 was promoting his own sale; maybe I should have just asked.
I've been buying, selling, riding bikes for 50yrs, so I've seen the 7005 etc, frames of the 70-80's. I still say that level of "pigeon shit" welding has no place on a "quality" thin-walled alloy tubing. To an experienced eye, it's a million miles away from the Cervelo at the top of the page.