• If one of the main uses for MY gravelly bike was "loaded w/e expeditions" then my frame material of choice would be some kind of metal, something strong enough to bear racks, panniers, etc.
    I'm not saying that there isn't a carbon touring off-road bike out there, just unconventional perhaps.

  • just unconventional perhaps

    Hardly. Carbon's come a long long way in terms of load capabilities, are a dime a dozen, and will continue to advance and drop in price.

    You're obviously looking at it from a conventional touring rig, obviously it's not going to work, but things have moved on from that by a long shot.

    Have some expedition bikes.

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