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• #18578
That being said I came to the conclusion that if one is doing the hybrid workflow of shooting on film and then scanning then using colour filters for black and white photography is just such a faff.
I mean, ideally you would carry a whole array of filters with you and use the different hues and strenghts fo the desired effect - yet when you process the files digitally later it's just so much easier (and cheaper of course), it's ridicoulous, and I do not even consider it "cheating". -
• #18579
yet when you process the files digitally later it's just so much easier (and cheaper of course), it's ridicoulous, and I do not even consider it "cheating".
If you're shooting film and scanning you're probably better off using colour film and converting to B&W in post, so much more flexibility with access to the colour channels.
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• #18580
so much more flexibility with access to the colour channels
I read that once on the internet-site of the self-proclaimed artist Ken Rockwell.
Did try it for a dozen rolls or so.
End of story was that, for me, the grain of black and white films looks very different that the colour / dye clouds of colour films, so b&w converted colour negative film always looked mushy and lacked the bite and grit and the overall character of real black and white film. -
• #18581
I guess I agree, my workflow is hybrid and I can and do edit my files.
I guess I'm just happy to create the effect I was aiming for.
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• #18582
Dusted off the Canon MC with a roll of Superia 200. After I busted my mju ii I thought I'd be quite underwhelmed but I'm happy on the whole, it requires a bit more care on the user end to get a blur-free result. It's a solid wee camera.
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• #18583
I came to the conclusion that if one is doing the hybrid workflow of shooting on film and then scanning then using colour filters for black and white photography is just such a faff.
Everyone will be different but I did the same. I sometimes use a green filter for forest shenanigans. And coloured filters on colour film for fun.
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• #18584
Faces of Brexit No. 3 and No. 4
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• #18585
If you're shooting film and scanning you're probably better off using colour film and converting to B&W in post, so much more flexibility with access to the colour channels.
@Ste_S hhhhmmm ... you do have access to colour channels with b&w scans. Why is this helpful?
For me reasons to shoot b&w (over colour) include the huge flexibility with exposure and easy home development to (attempt) making the best of the exposure.
Converting c41 can look good and is a different type of flexible altogether ... but you can forget about the benefits up there^
And then there’s XP2 which can gtfo >>>>>>>>>>
;-)
( i actually quite like xp2 )
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• #18586
Yes!
Ace.
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• #18587
I did the same. I sometimes use a green filter
Yea I still do it sometimes as well.
A light yellow filter with SLRs for example; not because it affects the photo a lot but because it helps me visualize the final image when I have a monochrome finder image.
I also use a dark green one when shooting b&w with the L35AF just because it looks really badass.
The camera with the green filter (plus vented hood!) on that is, the pictures are usually so-so, as using a dark green filter is just a stupid idea for the majority of occasions, but I'm old now and just don't give a shit anymore..
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• #18588
These are great man.
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• #18589
Definately best documented and best beagle ever. Rolleicord VB, HP5, yellow filter.
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• #18590
Really nice.
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• #18591
Yes! This is one of the best yet!
Great light in that picture, also like the depth of field including foreground blur this has.
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• #18592
Wonderful! She's very good sitting still for these, wish my cat would do the same..
What method do you use for metering?
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• #18593
Sunny 16, if in doubt over expose.
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• #18594
MJU II / Fuji Superia 400
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• #18595
majestic molly :)
I like this one because it's down at her eye level
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• #18596
On the subject of documented dogs
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• #18597
@Ste_S hhhhmmm ... you do have access to colour channels with b&w scans. Why is this helpful?
For me reasons to shoot b&w (over colour) include the huge flexibility with exposure and easy home development to (attempt) making the best of the exposure.
Converting c41 can look good and is a different type of flexible altogether ... but you can forget about the benefits up there^
And then there’s XP2 which can gtfo >>>>>>>>>>
;-)
( i actually quite like xp2 )
Absolutely agree on the reasons to shoot B&W if you're home developing and/or printing in a darkroom. For people like myself who get a lab to dev and scan, shooting colour and converting to B&W in Lightroom makes more sense and gives more flexibility.... however I'm not advocating this.
I've done if a few times, and converting something like Portra or Ektar can look close to T-Grain films like TMax or Delta. However it feels wrong for some reason - I might as well use a digital camera if I'm going down that path.
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• #18598
I really like this series, are you going to put them up grouped together anywhere ?
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• #18599
I may do at some point. Currently only putting thing on Instagram and here, haha
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• #18600
Nikonos V / 35mm F2.5 / Fuji Superia X-TRA 400
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So dramatic. Lovely capture. Best documented beagle ever? What does a yellow filter do to skies/clouds? Ive seen people use yellow/red/orange filters with black and white but never really got why