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Big Ted's crack looks typical of damage caused by water leaking into the seat tube and causing rust. A slight distortion at the seat bolt clamp area and no mudguards will cause a little puddle above the bottom bracket unless there's provision for draining.
So I think this one probably needs a new tube. The Scapin looks like a different problem - I'd certainly try brazing it, but I wouldn't spend money on painting before I'd given it a thorough road test!
clubman
@Big_Ted
Really interested in how this works out as I'd love to be able to bring the below back to life (I've been advised that not possible without new tubes and the resulting Trigger's broom)
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