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  • One for tester I suppose

    One for Leonard Zinn, assuming we're talking about why cantilevers with the cable stop on the stem or upper headset parts chatter. The fundamentals of brake chatter are the same for other kinds of brakes; something in the system is not stiff enough, and when it bends under braking loads it's new shape causes the braking load to reduce.

  • something in the system is not stiff enough, and when it bends under braking loads it's new shape causes the braking load to reduce.

    That was my understanding, but it doesn't appear to explain judder with hydraulic discs. Or any disc brakes.

    I was wondering whether a cable hanger mounted on the canti studs (like a brake booster) would be any good - ought to be even better than a crown-mounted one as there is no flex between the studs and brakes, and would work for suspension forks and forks with no drilled crown. Does it already exist?

  • it doesn't appear to explain judder with hydraulic discs. Or any disc brakes

    It probably does if you think about it for a bit longer.

    Does it already exist?

    I made a set once, definitely an upgrade from remote cable stops but V-brakes are a much simpler way to get the same effect.

  • That was my understanding, but it doesn't appear to explain judder with hydraulic discs. Or any disc brakes.

    The pads move back and forth inside the calipers, some brakes don't have tight tolerance to ensure the pads sit snugly.

    It usually happened if the brakes isn't bedded in properly.

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