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atz in reply to @Brommers

I think the allegation is that he HAS personally tortured people

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Brommers in reply to @atz

I think the allegation is that he HAS personally tortured people

Not according to the BBC news website that the wikipedia page that quote is taken from uses as its citation - it says he directed it to happen. My underlying point being that telling your pet torturer to torture someone else is not morally better than doing it yourself.

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