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They sound ok, try them without the socks and see how you get on?
My new LaSportiva Skwama are utterly agonising though at the moment so I'm hoping they do ease in a bit. Has anyone tried wearing them into a hot shower and then letting them dry on? Internet says this helps?
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'Agonising' sounds like they're way too small
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They sound too small? How long have you worn them for? My Skwamas were sort of very uncomfortable-not-quite-painful at first but after only 1-2 sessions they became very comfy. unlined leather so I've found they do stretch a tonne. But then they shrink again when I wash them so it's kind of back and forth all the time lol
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Just wore them around the room for a bit and I have some toe wiggle. My toes are flat but my big toes are touching the end.
This is with thickish socks though...