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They do need to be tight but hard to know whether they are too tight and bad, or just tight enough. You should not have any empty space at the front though, that's for sure, and they should be tight enough that you can use the tip on the wall.
They won't stretch loads but that depends in part on whether they're full synthetic or leather top
andyfallsoff
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I’ve just bought a pair of shoes (scarpa helix) their tight (my toes are right to the edges). I’ve read conflicting stuff about fit - is tight what’s needed? Do shoes normally stretch over time?