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• #94852
It is actually pronounced Zenon, I was being a twat.
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• #94854
That's very informative, thanks.
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• #94855
Xenon is never Ksenon.
You're right, but why Xavier is Gzavier and not Zavier?
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• #94856
Anyone ordered from starbike? Good/Bad/Ugly?
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• #94857
I have, good service to Canada.
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• #94858
why Xavier is Gzavier and not Zavier?
..why Javier is Schawié, not Chardonnay?
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• #94859
Ta
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• #94860
It isn't. Not in UK anyway.
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• #94861
Damn, 5 years since the pronunciation book thing ended. It was so underwhelming for such a long and crazy buildup.
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• #94862
First thing that came up, there was a build up to this?
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• #94863
there's no vowel between the K and the n. It's like the -(c)kn- in 'Hackney' or 'Cockney'
As pronounced, there is a weak unstressed vowel because k is a velar plosive. Don't make it as strong as the one in cockerney or people will think you can't speak German 😁
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• #94864
why Xavier is Gzavier and not Zavier?
@xavierdisley is Zav in English, except on the TT podcast, in which Mark Florence insists on calling him Eksavier 🤔
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• #94865
Yep, the only option is short or long 'e'.
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• #94866
The channel ran for something like 3 years just posting videos of how to say random words, had hundreds of videos. Occasionally there would be some weird stuff in some of them, like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBGoX0d1HVA
Teaching you how to say "something terrible happened on may 10th". The weirdness slowly built up over like 2 years with loads of crazy hidden stuff like a noise in one video that if you ran it through a spectrograph it showed a picture of something. Then a countdown started saying "something will happen in 77 days", with a line from a story or something added to each countdown day. I think part of it read in iambic pentameter if you rearranged it in a certain way IIRC.Anyway it was properly weird and cool then it was revealed to be part of some dumb game called bear sterns bravo that had a really goofy style that was totally different to the buildup and everyone was disappointed.
I did a quick search to see if there's a site that explains all the cool parts of it since there's a ton that I've forgotten but it doesn't look like there is. It's pretty hard to explain the depth of it and how cool it was at the time.
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• #94867
I only know a French (Parisian) Xavier; so Zavier.
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• #94868
truly wierd
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• #94869
As pronounced
By whom?
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• #94870
And at some locations in the colonies.
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• #94871
By whom?
By people. You can make the schwa as short as possible, but I defy anybody to make it zero length as that would imply infinite tounge speed transitioning from velar k to alveolar n
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• #94872
Is there a schwa between the "c" and the "l" when you say "clear"?
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• #94873
I can leave the tip of my tongue in the post-alveolar position for the l while doing velar c. I can't leave it in the alveolar position while doing velar k. Maybe I would be able to do that if I had trained on a language which routinely required it. If you think most Germans can, and do, maintain contact between tongue and alveolar ridge while pronouncing velar stops, feel free to correct the Wikipedia article about Knipex 😉
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• #94875
I can leave the tip of my tongue in the post-alveolar position for the l while doing velar c.
So you double-articulate some consonant clusters? Do you manage with words like "scan"?
If I had time, I'd download Praat, re-learn how to use it, and start running out some spectrograms of The Post-Apocalyptic Inventor saying "Knipex" - of which there are many examples
, Gott sei Dank.
Mais non?