@underuser53929 no but gangs related to extortion, armed robbery, drug dealing ... often or not the phones are either broken up for batteries / screen parts or sold to other countries en mass to black market buyers.
@chak@c00ps Most things I've read online point to the contrary ... both sides seem like conjecture, not seen any stats either way.
@|³|MA3K I don't know how you got that. I disagree with a controversial police tactic which was most likely sanctioned for PR purposes. I've suggested that militant police action can lead to brutality and mission creep and I've suggested that the problem is systemic and can be tackled at lot's of different junctures, which is fundamentally true. Part of that is crime scene response and chase — I'm taking issue with what form that takes.
Also, I think it's an odd position to hold that you can criticise only and if you have a "concrete" alternative. But it is true — I've got no concrete alternative to a potentially dangerous and irresponsible use of force that could lend itself to pre-judicial killings. Fuck me sideways
I've got no concrete alternative to a potentially dangerous and irresponsible use of force ....
Surely that is the justification for the use of these tactics to prevent greater harm to members of the public being knocked-down, dragged, stabbed, run-over?
Bit binary no? Don't have any alternative? so let's just use the ultimately flawed one we have here simply to pacify people's perceptions by showcasing a PR video with no empirical evidence to show that there's any correlation between its use and crime reduction in areas where it's truly needed?
@underuser53929 no but gangs related to extortion, armed robbery, drug dealing ... often or not the phones are either broken up for batteries / screen parts or sold to other countries en mass to black market buyers.
@chak @c00ps Most things I've read online point to the contrary ... both sides seem like conjecture, not seen any stats either way.
@|³|MA3K I don't know how you got that. I disagree with a controversial police tactic which was most likely sanctioned for PR purposes. I've suggested that militant police action can lead to brutality and mission creep and I've suggested that the problem is systemic and can be tackled at lot's of different junctures, which is fundamentally true. Part of that is crime scene response and chase — I'm taking issue with what form that takes.
Also, I think it's an odd position to hold that you can criticise only and if you have a "concrete" alternative. But it is true — I've got no concrete alternative to a potentially dangerous and irresponsible use of force that could lend itself to pre-judicial killings. Fuck me sideways