Proper selvedge jeans

Ed85 White Selvage is good. I size down in waist to 30 when I buy them.

cheers will take a look

Sheux!

Also, that dad has massive balls. Cheers for the suggestions tho. Will do some looking tonight.

Son of a stag carry some good Pherrow’s chinos. Punch well above their weight at £99.00. Had mine for a few years and they’re great.

Clutch Cafe also have nice chinos from multiple brands.

Buzz Rickson make a really great chino too and American Classics on Endell St carry those. Depends if you’re up for traditional fits though.

Is traditional fit loose / baggy?

Just ripped the backside seam on a pair of carhartt's for the 2nd time; already had them repaired once. Also happened to the pair of chinos I had before these. Conveniently, just as arrived at work.

Problem is too tight around thighs = ripping times when bending over. Oooh err etc.

Maybe traditional fit is what I need?

Wider waist = larger thigh and then have waist taken in?

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Anyone seen proper Carhartt workwear in store in London recently (not the WIP fashion stuff) the blanket-lined made in the USA boxy fits?

I bought a pair of lined chinos a few years ago and it was about 2 sizes too small, so size up unless you can try them on first

Traditional fit also uses a much higher rise, which makes crouching or bending over easier on the trousers.

If you're after the duck jacket or dungers then Screwfix have them.

Cool. Can only see the hooded jacket in duck there; want to see what the Detroit jacket fits like.

The Carhartt Europe website excludes the UK list of stockists which is just great.

Wider waist = larger thigh and then have waist taken in?

I do that with suit trousers, with jeans and chinos I go for a slightly bigger waist that will be ok with a belt. I thought that was going to work with the Carhartt's but seemingly not.

So may have to go that way, yeah.

Yes, loose and baggy, so be prepared to roll up your jeans if cycling in them. My jeans go from traditional to very traditional e.g. 1920s-early 1940s fits and I have no problem in riding in any of them. They'll be dead straight in the leg, likely the same width at the thigh as the opening of the jean, hence the need to roll them up if riding.

Example of a traditional fit:

It means you can get the right waist size and they'll still fit you. Lots of traditional jeans come with a cinch at the waist anyway. I've not worn a belt in years... At the more affordable end of the market, look for Edwin Nashville's, ED-47s. Or just go to Son of a Stag/Clutch Cafe/The Real McCoys if you want to buy a really good pair of jaens. Carhartt sadly have discontinued all of their 'straight' jeans and now only make jeans with a taper, I believe.

Yes, Nashville's were the best fit I've found in the last few years. Unfortunately only lasted 18 months until the crotch went.

Pretty normal tbf, even with more expensive jeans. Not worth repairing? Every pair of jeans that I've worn very regularly for over a year have blown at the crotch.

I've got Nashvilles that are about 20 yo still going with repairs

Could be I should have stepped in and repaired a bit earlier. I carried on wearing them until they were pretty far gone in that area, and then assumed not worth repairing so got rid.

Slightly regretting now as they were super comfy.

Oh maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnn that's a shame. Jeans are always worth repairing! There's a reason repaired jeans from the 50s, 60s, 70s are still being worn.

Not sure if American Classics stock it? I’ve bought online from MI Supplies in the past and would recommend them.

True to size if you’re wearing something bulky underneath or one down if it’s a T-shirt

Cheers for the chino tips. I like quite a high high rise for stylistic and practical reasons. I’m all torso with little stumpy legs so lo rise anything looks weird on me and always fall down.

In that case, these are as good as any chino you'll find anywhere:

https://www.buzzricksons.com/buzz-original-spec-chinos-p-298.html

I highly recommend (with work involved caveats) the German Bundeswehr moleskin repro trousers available on ebay and other places. The caveats are that they're widish and may require tapering and that they have cargo style pockets on both legs (I removed mine). I'm totally into this material which is not like the UK moleskin, it has a harder surface that wears really well.

Im sick of ill fitting jeans that last 6 months.

Where can i try on lots of sizes of good quality jeans in either westfield or around oxford/regent st?

American Classics on Endell Street is worth a look