• Reaching it means not ignoring those who voted to remain and build a consensus

    My wife and I had a disagreement. She wanted to get a cat and I didn't... so we compromised and got a cat.

    It's an old joke, but it does mirror the situation quite nicely. How on Earth are you meant to build a consensus when the population is split more or less 50-50 on the fundamental action point of the referendum? And that's not even taking into account the fundamental split in the Brexiteur camp. I think Theresa May has done a lot of stupid shit, but I don't think she should ultimately be held accountable for failing to deliver on other people's idiotic promises.

  • One word....Norway....not perfect but then everyone bar Brexit extremists would have been 'happy' or at least have something...left Eu but still in SM,CU and still FoM and no hard border in Ireland....She chose to become PM after Cameron buggered off and no one really opposed her....she is responsible and the buck stops with her....Lancaster House speech...redlines..etc etc..all she has ever done since 2016 is appease the Brexit extremists....she talks of a Brexit dividend and has not called out the £350 million on the red bus going to the NHS....she was a Luke warm remained and I have no sympathy for her....all she has displayed is stubbornness and hubris.

  • One word....Norway....not perfect but then everyone bar Brexit extremists would have been 'happy' or at least have something

    Well remainers would be unhappy at the lack of say in EU decisions, so only soft-Brexiters would have been happy. I completely agree that her stubbornness, pandering to the hardline Brexiteurs and failure to say anything meaningful is utterly infuriating, but she's not ultimately responsible for people's expectations of having their cake and eating it. Those are a result either of the referendum campaign or of what others have said since.

  • The problem with the Norway model is that since immigration was/is such a hot topic, as soon as any proposal that kept FOM was suggested, it was immediately shouted down as 'not the Brexit The People voted for'. Which sadly might actually be true.

    This coupled with the fact that the freedoms can't be separated makes any form of soft Brexit seem impossible to me.

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