• It would be nice if Brits abroad and furrins in the UK like me wouldn't be screwed by this "last minute panic deal" approach.

    Big games of chicken over people rights aren't particularly nice. [though May in her usual form refused to sort this 2 years ago]

  • I hear you on that, but this was always how it was going to go. I can't see how there was ever an alternative path. The pressure of the deadline was always going to lead to a last minute exercise. No one really knowing what they'd voted for when they voted for Brexit was always going to lead to people being disappointed/disenfranchised.

    The whole thing is so utterly ridiculous, this situation is as good as anyone could have ever expected.

  • I hear you on that, but this was always how it was going to go. I can't see how there was ever an alternative path.

    Absolutely. As one of those people abroad who's been told by their gracious host country that there are not rights if there is no deal, it's a pretty big deal for me. But... A bit of panic and chaos is necessary if the referendum is going to be overturned in one form or another. Overall I see the last two days as good news (relative to the entire cluster fuck that is UK politics). But I also won't be holding my breath.

  • May refused a sign off on rights in 2016, against the advice of oh, everyone. Because she doesn't want the EJC to mediate, but really, the UK has been SO trustworthy...

    Only way out I can see is ringfencing with independent court to mediate, I am not sure why this hasn't happened. Other priorities perhaps, as a no deal would cancel all rights, but still this has been a mess for 2 years and it's not even the hardest thing to sort.

    But yeah, I doubt a lot of voters would have expect this to happen because a lot of official leave said nothing would change for immigrants in the EU that are already there. I still don't think it is quite an excuse 2 years down the line, though any leave voter that complains to their MP / donates to rights groups can be excused for their ignorance 2 years ago I suppose.

    All this is basically "we lost the house, be glad you aren't homeless but can live in the shed" which was utterly predictable two years ago.
    But a lot of people don't give a flying fuck.

  • The whole thing is so utterly ridiculous, this situation is as good as anyone could have ever expected.

    hah yes this.

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