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@monkdagola Oh for sure and I definitely used to be exactly the same but for the last year or so I've tried the @Skülly approach to commuting and I have to say it's really reduced that kind of flight reaction to those situtions, although alas, not reduced the amount of them!
@jj72 aye, totally get that it's a very personal thing and I should probably add that I'll happily go on fully mtb ride in jeans without padded shorts so it might just be I've beaten my arse in to submission over this, although additionally riding position and saddle would have a big effect too on the (dis)comfort of jeans over any distance.