Which Tyres?

this - although some hills resist the spin even with my granny gearing! (brasted and hangrove)

thanks all, will read up on GP4S and schwalbes and see if either of them work better.

has anyone tried these?
The catchily-named "Vredestein Fortezza Senso Xtreme Weather"

I just fitted a set of "Vredestein Fortezza Senso All Weathers" on my fast winter commuter and bad weather bike. I have had a set of Xtreme Weathers some winters ago and was quite happy with them, felt a bit slow, but generally ok for intended use.

Michelin Endurance have served me well, they do get cut up but have no issues with grip and roll nicely. Rubio Pro G+ are my go to for everything these days, I commute on them, Sunday ride on them, everything. They've never slipped from under me, feel really quick rolling and last for ages.

Another vote Michelin Pro4 Endurance, they were my tyre of choice before I switched to wider rubber. Between the fixed commuter (23c) and the road/touring/audax bike (25c) they've been consistently very good and dependable, occasionally in very poor conditions and/or on very poor surfaces.

I've got one of these on the back of the TT bike on the turbo. It's been delaminating (tread is kinda peeling away from the tyre) for a year now but still going so I've not bothered to change it (at least until the TT bike goes back out onto the roads). I think I have one on the front of my Tarmac too. 25mm. Quite nice. Never tried any of the G+ tyres though so can't compare.

Rubino Pro G+ are my go to for everything these days.

it's good to hear feedback on that, I'm always wary as Rubino in the past isn't exactly great (as in theywork), if the newer one is good for you, then they're good for everyone.

I equally like the fact it comes in 30mm, decent sizes if the bike has enough clearance for 28mm.

yeah the old Rubinos were pretty terrible but the G+ ones are great, a completely different tyre. They're relatively cheap too.

Saw that, about £20-24, same thread thickness as a GP4000sII (abet heavier) which helped with the G+ compound.

Looks like Rubino Pro+ might be a good replacement for my GP4000II then, which seem to have sidewalls constructed of tissue paper.

Related question, will a couple of layers of gorilla tape suffice as a tyre-boot?

Related question, will a couple of layers of gorilla tape suffice as a tyre-boot?

as a temporary measurement? yup.

Exactly what I've been riding on for a few hundred miles without issue (Marathon Supreme 32c on the rear, ~65psi max), but the side wall tear is tiny. I decided if I couldn't see a bulge it must be safe. (Right?) :-)

One layer is plenty.

have Vittoria discontinued hyper voyagers in 32c?

they have discontinued them totally I think, tubeless is the future (or something)

Yep they're done

sake

i am basically having choice paralysis for a 32 tyre for winter / audax. non tubeless. voyagers seemed to tick all the boxes.

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews/continental-grand-prix-4-season-2015

They're not even as thick as GP4000s which are a race tyre.

@plasticniki
I'd be looking at Duranos for winter/audax durability. No one likes fixing flats when it's -1degC.
They do a 28mm and if you really want it to last forever there's Durano Plus.

i knew all along that this was the answer but yet i have spent hours reading about other tyres. why the hell do i bother. why

I use continental grand prix race as daily. No flats, fast rolling, come in 32c and can be found for £15 if you shop around.

if i stick with 28 then i'm just gonna stick with lifelines probably. i've used both the prime armour and the prime race versions over winter (i reckon about 8000km in total) with no flats. then my brain goes "ride something nicer, go 32" and then i do a silly loop of not being able to decide and then going back to the lifelines.

If they're working for you then why not? I only chuck different tyres on when I'm experimenting with some idea or I spot a bargain.

They sound pretty good. I've never heard of them until you mentioned them.
https://road.cc/content/review/179366-lifeline-prime-armour-road-tyre

They sound pretty good. I've never heard of them until you mentioned them.
https://road.cc/content/review/179366-li­feline-prime-armour-road-tyre

Are these just another tyre rebranded by Wiggle? I bet @dubtap knows.

Yeah, look at the comments. They're from some Chinese company. Does it matter?