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I know one of the Seiko area sales managers very well , he's the partner of one of our ex members of staff, so I have seen them regularly and I think if you were to actually compare side by side with a variety of similarly priced, different branded Swiss product you may change your opinion as well. They just aren't as special . Agree to disagree as I said way earlier.
I have to respect the way you leap to the brands defence tho, all of you.
Fair enough. If they're not for you, they're not for you. I'd be interested to see if your opinion changed if you see one in the flesh (if you haven't already). They're really quite intoxicating. Yes I just used the word intoxicating to describe a watch.