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Johnnyw75
That's a good point. And there will be Christmas and new year sales on soon.
https://www.gumtree.com/p/bicycles/canyon-ultimate-cf-sl-9.0-di2-carbon-road-racing-bike-medium-55-56/1317475293 With last years bikes in mind, this caught my eye. Though this isn't a good enough discount for a 2nd hand bike IMO, and its too far away, but its encouraging