• Hive mind, help required please!

    Have been enjoying the Charge, but have come to the conclusion it's too small (no sh*t, look at that seatpost) for long rides. I've also got a new (to me) best bike in the stable which isn't suitable for wet weather therefore I feel another build (or two) coming on.

    I'm thinking of splitting this bike's task into two:

    1. Winter trainer with ~32mm tyres, guards and optional racks for longer journeys (but would be happy/enjoyable as a commuter
    2. Fun commuter (details tbc)

    I'll eat my greens and sort out the winter trainer first. I have the Charge up for sale, if it doesn't sell I have plans (think nobblies and ss).

    After lots of attempts I've found my magic numbers, ~650mm stack, ~390mm reach and ideally a seat tube over of 610mm.

    Few options I've found include:

    1. Surly disc trucker - sizing looks good, but worried it'll be too heavy/truck like for the miles I plan to use it for
    2. Omnium CXC - bit of an unknown, but it it doesn't work out I could convert it into a SS commuter
    3. Soma, all other Surlys - too long
    4. All City - £££
    5. Bowman, Specialized, Secan and many others - too short seat tube

    Any other ideas? Would I be ok on a disc trucker hats other a light(ish) build?

  • Canyon Grail - sizing seems odd compared to your requirements, presumably because you are looking at frame stack/reach and they measure system stack and reach including the bars, but the seat tube on the 2xl is long enough....

    had a brief ride off road on one and they are wicked bad fun...

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