pjhobs' stable - Who doesn't love a long head tube?!

Velo Orange Pass Hunter has a straight top tube but not quite your stack/reach.

How fat a tyre do you need?

There can't be many people out there who need 650mm stack but only 390mm reach - and with a straight top tube to boot. You might struggle.

Actually Salsa Marrakesh might do it...

620mm ST/392mm reach/625mm stack - just need a few spacers or a positive stem?

https://salsacycles.com/bikes/marrakesh/2019_marrakesh_deore

Salsa Marrakesh is a great shout, only concern is with a 650 stack I'll need a few spacers.

@Saffronspokes has suggested a Kinesis Tripster AT

Comes in 63cm and the geometry is almost bang on

You could just get a tall stack stem like this?
But honestly, what is most important, fit or aesthetics?

fit or aesthetics?

Canyon Grail - sizing seems odd compared to your requirements, presumably because you are looking at frame stack/reach and they measure system stack and reach including the bars, but the seat tube on the 2xl is long enough....

had a brief ride off road on one and they are wicked bad fun...

Not a bad shout, but keen to avoid carbon. Yeah, the reach/stack figures are crazy

why, you too old for carbon?! :p

Had a play on bikeCAD with the Kinesis measurements and my saddle height. Not a winner

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How about any of the three Fairlight cycles in 61T size.

How about any of the three Fairlight cycles in 61T size.

I'd love a Secan, but the sloping top tube would need a 410mm post at max extension.

I've come to the conclusion it'll have to be custom. Bike fit booked for this weekend.

How about any of the three Fairlight cycles in 61T size.

I'd love a Secan, but the sloping top tube would need a 410mm post at max extension.

I've come to the conclusion it'll have to be custom. Bike fit booked for this weekend.

Well, that escalated quickly...

he only came on here to be able to prove to his other half he'd tried all other options before ordering a custom bike...

It was Mrs Hobs that convinced me that I should go custom rather than the Kinesis (redundant now). Was unexpected, but I'm not arguing.

Well, that escalated quickly...

Ha ha, true, but I have been hunting/thinking for a while

that's some excellent negotiation to make her tell you what you wanted the answer to be.

are we talking UK steel or forin Ti?

Thinking Chinese Ti, given the success by @Saffronspokes with his Waltly

And the nice little discount I'll get on ordering a second frame with them

Has this been resolved yet?

Seeing that this time next year I’ll have a full on dad bod, I should be perfectly placed to focus on my bikepacking/gravel game (it’s just a sportive really isn’t it) so might think about getting a ti version of my cross bike, so will be watching with interest...

I've have a design, although slight tweaks depend on which fork I end up with. Next step is to choose a builder!

Given the length of tubes involved, looks like it'll be Ti

could have predicted that weeks ago, do you need to tell me where you'll decide to get it from?

Nope, I know :p

... and the next build begins...

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