The Vegan Thread

Cornetto too it seems.

Its hard eh? Tesco sells good veg, but then have Hogwood as a supplier.

One step forward, five back everywhere you look.

Or just don’t shop in Tesco. Seems simple enough really.

8 beers for £9 though.

Argh. Fucking parkrun have taken on an egg company as their sponsor. Big hullabaloo on vegan running groups about it. Parkrun made a pretty condescending retort, ultimately saying fuck off to the vegan runners. What a shame. I'll have to find something else I think.

Couldn't agree more.

Also, as a more general point, I’ve realised that with much stuff like this, if you are going to change your habits and boycot something, make sure you contact the customer services and tell the company why you have done so. If you are silent about it you can’t really hope to effect change.

Yeah, it is.
But, I see it like a transition, just like with people.

Most vegans have been eating meat and/or dairy for most of their lives, and they most likely even have friends and family that isn’t vegan.
If a person or brand/chain decides it wants to change and eat/sell vegan, its all about fanning the spark instead of throwing water on it! 🔥

By refusing to buy vegan products we are telling the guys in the big office there is no need for their product and then they’ll go back to their carni product line that they have always had and that they are making a fortune on. Then in turn, if those products aren’t there anymore, it’s making it harder for other non vegans to choose something with less suffering.

So I’d say, support the vegan movement by reaching a hand out to everyone trying to get on board, and eat magnums
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Agreed

It's all the old debate about whether to change things from the outside in or from the inside out. Simply, both are good.

I've used vegan businesses for a long time for certain things, and more so since the vegan market opened just down the road, but most of my shopping has been for vegan products at non-vegan local shops. Using local shops is very important to me--I haven't shopped at supermarket chains for nearly 20 years, except for the occasional purchase when out cycling when there was nothing else available in a town or village, or when in Germany, where there are virtually no independent local food shops (except that in recent years, more Asian and Turkish food shops have opened there, which makes me feel right at home). Most of those local shops, except for my local health food shop, which is vegetarian and increasingly vegan, sell meat. I've met vegans who said they ordered all their food except for fruit and veg on-line so as to only patronise vegan businesses. All of that is fine in some ways, not so good in others--e.g., I particularly dislike shopping on-line, as I think it's very important to maintain local retail, but the priority for others will be to give all their money to purely vegan businesses. At the end of the day, buying vegan things will help, no matter how.

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I agree.

I'm in agreement with @JonD that it is that simple, but sometimes doing a little bad is nexessary to do lot of good. ie gorging on cornettos and magnums shows there is a market for this stuff, and in time hopefully, the market share becomes larger.
Shopping at Tesco and buying their vegan offerings is showing that their is a demand, and again, hopefully in time the demand grows and grows.
Yes it is simple enough to boycott Tesco, but then I'm not going to be showing my support for the vegan items.

My initial point about it being hard, was more to do with the fact that we can only do our best in a world that's not quite there yet, and that ultimately that is all we can do. I gave Tesco as an example, but as we all know, I could have chosen countless others.
Echoing @Oliver Schick, I think buying vegan things, even if not from a vegan retailer, has to be a good thing.
YMMV

I always like it when a recipe page by someone who usually does omnivore recipes is vegan (apart from a brief mention of yoghurt, which many people would interpret as dairy), even if it's glossed as 'cheap'.

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2018/oct/20/yotam-ottolenghi-student-recipes-three-course-meal

I was just on that page. I'm making the ice-cream

Hmmmm..

Thanks for sharing!

VegFest London next week-end, for those like me who had missed this entirely until today:

https://london.vegfest.co.uk/

Lots of interesting talks scheduled on growing food/allotments/permaculture.
I'm going for some of that.

Thanks for the link,
it will be a full weekend with the Saturday;
https://www.lfgss.com/events/4335/

Made this... chestnut rum chocolate tart.

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Afternoon tea at Cafe Forty One was ace

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That looks lovely.

Nice! Really want to go

Needed a bit more rum and better chocolate. Next time... :)

Grrr fucking London Live programme right now 'The truth about meat' - total bias defending consumption on the basis of making choices based on 'bettter' 'taste' and 'health' for eaters and no mention of animal welfare or environmental impact. Total brainwash tv. Cunts.

Back on Paris, Exki has good vegan options. Sandwiches and salads.

I can't remember hearing about these guys before, but I may have done:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bosh-how-two-londoners-made-veganism-mainstream-with-viral-recipe-channel-from-their-hammersmith-a3965201.html