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Make a better route, stick it on RWGPS and let me know.

brushes fake dust from hands

"Well, that's Scotland tour planning done." ;)

You know, if I have enough time on the sleeper this week, I just might do that....

I will of course, make it a tour of Ecosse's, sorry, Alba's, finest pubs, bars and co-operative cider mills...

Distilleries?

At least I learned what 'Alba' means now though so there's that.

The pasty looking locals (who don't get enough sunlight) are called 'albumen'.

HTH.

Okay yeah worse than i though,

Fife erouting is abismal, I live here and such prettier roads available
Drumnadrochit to Bridge of Orchy, climbing a standard B road with timber and artic lorries trundling by you. Repeat for Tarbet to Callander

When zooming on the route there is also a few cycle 1 mile up a road then turnaround and go back where you came?

Miss your neck of the woods, which has some of the best cycling climbs/views around.

It goes through Dundee, so that will be a visual highlight.

Yeah, I see a few of them. Might be worth feeding back if you can be arsed. I'm not that bothered.

When zooming on the route there is also a few cycle 1 mile up a road then turnaround and go back where you came?

Looks like just an initial stab at it to give people a rough outline of where it goes. They either haven't done the final checked GPX or they're keeping it to themselves to avoid people stealing it.

Is that what the Baa Baa guys realised a bit too late?

Are you sure Scotland doesn't have some kind different rules?

It might well have been.
I think it's UK laws so would be the same.
https://www.google.com/search?q=does+the+road+traffic+act+apply+in+scotland&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab

There's a guy who posts on YACF who is a sometime commissaire / organiser for races in Scotland and it sounds similar from what he says. In some ways it's actually worse as there is no CTT there so even time trials come under BC / UCI rules.

But they won't be wanting to do any of that as not workable. Let's see if they can do it on an informal basis.

Thinking about it, where they might come unstuck is when they try to get organisers liability insurance.

Out of curiosity, I pinged them a mail asking about orgs liability cover.
There was an autoresponder that gave me the race manual. It talks about it being a private excursion on public roads, and they ask you to sign a lengthy waiver absolving them from any liability. IAMAL but I don't think that would work in the UK and they would be at risk of being sued big time, by a rider's insurance company, if anything went wrong. Let's see if they find this out or are up for risking it!

Really want it too work as cycling up here is beautiful and if the weather turns properly brutal so would make an interesting event.

Just feel this isn't the right one though.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/proposed-changes-to-the-cycle-racing-on-the-highway-regulations-1960

IAMAL

I Am Maybe A Lawyer?
I Am Masquerading As Lawyer?

They've also called it a race, so that's going to negatively impact on their "just an excursion" thing, no?

IANAVGT
I am not a very good typist

It'd be funnier if it was "masquerading"... as you slipped out of the bogs, in your £5000 suit, wiping cocaine from your nose, slamming down the nearest phone after screaming "they're guilty! I fucking know it!" etc

Yes, would be good to see a UK event and a good UK event really means Scotland.

As I suspected they don't have insurance

Hi Frank,

Yes. It's been tough ask for many companies. We are close to finalising everything and will update you with details. We've been lucky to have some really great people work on this.

What I will say is that we have had to put a lot on riders (like the Trans Am / Trans Con) where they have to get their own third party insurance that covers cycling/racing within the UK. It was much the same when competing in the Trans Am this year.

Thanks,

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TYPE YOUR QUESTION I think it is great that you are trying to put this on. However, I'm concerned that it imight not be viable to do so under the cycling-unfriendly laws we have in the UK.
Have you been able to get organiser's liability cover? If so, who is it from?

the transalba is not inspiring at all - large chunks of poor routing and roads that I wouldn't attempt to ride on, ever - namely the a85 and a82. Pass.

I told you not to tell anyone that story

I've not ridden enough up there to have a view but interesting that everybody who knows the route says its shite

They plan on importing some Romanian fkndgs too.

A85 can be treacherous in a car!

When is the reunion?

Obvious miss is obvious.

I have a 3 distilleries route from my house, I've yet to complete it and its only 24 miles.....