• they are shite and have this unnecessary tightening mechanism for no extra braking power, obv they work but R8000 work better and are easier to set up

  • Will see how I get on with them now that they appear relatively central for now.

    I have older gen Sram red brakes or DA9000 to go on if I get fed up (though r8000 or 9100 might match better with the rest of groupset)

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