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ok, but not as good as revelate
porcelain rocket are also very good, I forgot about them in the earlier post
blackburn and ortlieb - don't bother
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Just did 2,000 miles across the US with a Blackburn frame bag and restrap bar bag - no issues. The magnetic attach restrap food bag is one of the best things I own in my opinion. Also managed to make the old restrap dry bag last the trip although I believe the new version is made in house and much tougher.
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Thanks, how about Apidura? Also, I can't see a Revelate full frame bag on their site, any clues?