The Dentist Association; Cervelo Owners Club

S3 > S5 as per

No rider in team kit in a shot with the bike = no infringement. Probably.

better picture

First the Canyon double handle bar and now this split stem thing? Whats next split forks?

Whats next split forks?

Like this?

Ridley Noah SL.

Whats next split forks?

Do you mean like this:

or like this:

?

It certainly looks very slippy

Don't they all these days?

At least it looks different to the other aero bikes.

ha.

Why are there trees between the stem and top cap?

Computer mount.
But then again not sure if srs

I was serious, I thought it looked like a rendered image.

My R5, resprayed by Kustom Flow with the original colourway referenced on the seat tube

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Came here to post this, looks pretty swish with that paintjob!

New P5 disc:

looks a bit like a p4

Are discs more aero? Or why would one want discs on a bike which in theory never needs to stop?

'Progress' isn't it? I suppose there's the argument that you can do interesting things with the fork crown and rim shape when you haven't got to factor in a rim brake.

why would one want discs on a bike which in theory never needs to stop?

TT courses with no braking are mainly a UK thing. Many a grand tour prologue can be won or lost based on time made up in the braking zones.

Removing the faff of designing a caliper brake frees up a lot more space for actual aerodynamic engineering, especially on the front end. Modern frame specific calipers on TT bikes were all pretty rubbish, much like the Venge Vias and cables don't like the kinks that can come from completely internal routing.

Disc rotors are probably a touch 'slower' on paper compared to a hidden caliper but the scope they have for new fork designs (new Shiv, S5D etc) will save a lot more watts in the long run. The new Shiv has fork legs that look over 100mm apart, there's no way you could get a decent caliper rigged up on there. Hydro hoses are loads easier to hide too.

I’m not sure I can remember an uglier cervelo colourway than the new sunweb R5. The white and the angled colours clash really badly. the S5 has more black and looks ok with its funky shapes

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I'm on the lookout for a 58cm R3 (or maybe even an s3 if budget allows) disc.. If anyone sees one about 2nd hand I'd appreciate a heads up

A question for owners of older Cervelos: On the seatpost of a P3SL frame I bought, the bolt system on the seat clamp is rather annoying to use - one bolt is accessible from underneath, which is great. But the other one is a 'thumb bolt' that controls the saddle angle which, when you put the saddle on, is extremely difficult / annoying to operate, as you have no access from underneath (meaning I have to somehow jam my finger in to turn it). Am I missing something super obvious on this? Is there some kind of trick to make this easier? (It's very similar in design to a Fizik R1 seat post clamp, but that one has the 'dial' bolt mounted in a way that it is actually accessible even when the saddle is on the clamp)

My approach so far has been to dial it in roughly right before I put the saddle on, leaving the other bolt completely loose, and then to try to do the rest once the saddle is on - but you can't tighten it too much beforehand, otherwise it's impossible to get the saddle on.

Surely there must be something I'm missing? Grateful for any suggestions!

Surely there must be something I'm missing?

No, it's just a shit design, just as inaccessible seat post bolts were back in the 1950s when Campag had them. This is why the P3C has a completely different seat post which is shit in different ways, superseded by the "Nuovo" P3 whose seat post finds whole new ways of being shit.
AFAIK, @specialist has a P3SL so he might have some hints, rarely seen on here so you might have to PM him to wake him up.

A seat with a cut out helped on my old p3 alloy- you could get at the second bolt that way from the top. It is just a bad design though but once it’s done it’s hopefully done

Thanks - on the plus side, it means I'm not quite as stupid as I was starting to feel. On the other hand, how is a company like Cervelo not able to develop one good seat clamp design and more or less stick to it...

@Tallboy

I had that thought too at some point - "oh if I was using one of those short wide cutout tri saddles, I could access the bolt from above". Then I looked at the bolt from above, and... yeah you guessed it, you can't use an Allen key on that bolt at all. I'll believe you it's still simpler with a cutout, but wouldn't it be brilliant if it was as simple as just inserting an Allen key from above... :D

I think if I do end up using a saddle with a cutout in the right place at some point, I might use an angle grinder (if I can find one) or just a saw to make a little slit in the top of that bolt so I can at least use a screwdriver from above.