The Mamnick Thread

I know Kibosh from Neil P, who's raced TCR. I know of Donhou from here - speed record bike, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGAwp5syXyE

You didn't really answer the question.

Secondly, that's your opinion. You seem to think you're speaking for a whole forum when you say 'us'. Hundreds of thousands (?) of people. I know many people personally in this thread and I think they are probably, like me, trying to understand the why, who, what, where without all the keyboard warrior aggression hence me simply trying to have a conversation in a civil way.

I'm saying I'm not beholden to answer your questions. I'm saying nobody on here is beholden to devote their time to engaging with or reforming someone who comes across as a smug, nasty, entitled little shit just because you want to use him as some kind of wider political symbol and reduce the damage he is doing to his own personal enterprise.

Keyboard warrior blah blah. I see no threats of violence? I'm just as entitled to express my opinion of the man as he is to expunge his immature bile upon the world via twitter.

Go have your considered, meaningful conversation with your friend in private, it doesn't require my or anyone else's participation and nobody is stopping you?

Neil here, one of Kibosh.

Sorry that you've interpreted a collaboration as sponsorship or that doing so with a brand has meant we are interpreted to have the same views as their personal views. Not here to defend Thom, he's more than capable of doing that himself, although he's always been a very decent chap when I've shared a pint with him.

We are a small team, we make some of our own merch to try and raise money for kit etc. Mamnick is a collab not sponsorship, we chose to do something with him to help earn a very small amount of money to contribute to the coffers. Insinuating that because we chose to do this, pulls Donhou in to equation is wrong on so many levels. Most of the guys that ride for the team don't really have time to look at or care too much about other peoples political views, rightly or wrongly. More take their own judgement from real life meetings. We'd prefer to spend our time riding, racing, working full time jobs and being as nice to everyone we can be.

I understand completely and would absolutely think the same if I didn't know the team.

Just finished reading through.

Unfollowed, reported and suggest others do the same on socials.

As for who owns Manmick, nothing on Companies House which could mean;

a) not incorporated gammon
b) VAT fraudster gammon
c) FYI I'm
d) not
e) a
f) lawyer

'you want to use him as some kind of wider political symbol and reduce the damage he is doing to his own personal enterprise'

Simply put. No this is not what I'm trying to do. I do not care about that. It is beyond reduction IMHO. The damage has been done. I just wanted to get to the truth. I care about those associated with him, who like Neil said, take him at face value. There is a clear line between 'Brexit banter' and blatant racism, it can surprise us all who crosses it and it's only natural that people want to see evidence and ask questions, which they have done. Am I the only one who's not allowed?

Once again, you attempt to tell me what to do. Nobody asked you to participate.

Insinuating that because we chose to do this, pulls Donhou in to equation is wrong on so many levels.

I'm not insinuating anything - I'm giving you my interpretation of what I see on your site. That's how it appears to me, and I am of course only speaking for myself. Whether that view is shared by others who visit is of course a question for you, and for Donhou.

Nobody asked you to participate.

Likewise

You may get further looking for the website's registered address and then using this as a basis for a Companies House search

No dice on whois :(

Most of the guys that ride for the team don't really have time to look at or care too much about other peoples political views, rightly or wrongly. More take their own judgement from real life meetings. We'd prefer to spend our time riding, racing, working full time jobs and being as nice to everyone we can be.

This is, and sorry to say this as you seem a nice enough bunch, a cop-out.

He clearly holds strong views - whether he saves them exclusively for Twitter and keeps them to himself in the pub is academic. It's in the public arena and you're choosing to turn a blind eye. Is any of this what you are about as a team? I suspect not. Is there anyway of seeing that as an outsider? No. The assumption has to be that you endorse, by association, Thom's Alt-right views, as do the other brands on your site.

To be clear - I'm not intending on having a pop at you here, I suspect you are not a bunch of Tommy Robinson enthusiasts, but by taking no action you risk positioning yourself with them.

Collaborating with stylish fascists has always turned out so well in the past!

Insha’Allah you will succeed in this noble jihad habibi.

The other Manboob thing, still no idea what it is.

I'm pretty sure that you know all about manboobs...

that tory cunt on LBC and the shower of fash appeasing arseholes at quilliam he shills for? fuck off. we see you.

So what views of mine are "Alt-Right"?

This should be good.

Lets turn this around - do you have a single opinion or belief that would not be classed as Alt-Right? If so, what is it? If not, you've answered your own (bad faith) question.

Would you accept money from the EDL "for kit etc"?

Confused
https://www.squidbikes.com/collections/goods

Are these good or bad?

That said, I can't say I know much about that organisation.

Oh go on. I bet you can

Does it stand for 'Elephant Dick Lubrication' ? crosses fingers

I don't think so but I'm sure there's an organisation like that out there somewhere which would be perfect for you.

Yeah, I'm just confused if they're authentic squids. And if they're authentic squids does it make them inauthentic?

Mostly, I am weirded out that my search for "dickies" "cycling" got me that.

Exhibit A
https://twitter.com/aesthete_thom

Exhibit B

Sam Harris

Exhibit C

'non thinking'

Exhibit D

If there was a more Libertarian party in the UK I would vote for them.

Britain First?