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Well, I can only speak from my own experience- and I had never heard of Kibosh, or Mamnick, before yesterday/today.
I visited the Kibosh site, saw Donhou as co-sponsor with Mamnick (and an old F1 car).
Mamnick is run by Thom, who holds views that I consider to be both factually wrong and morally bankrupt.
Given his billing on the Kibosh site as partner/sponsor/whatever, then that appears as an endorsement of what Mamnick stands for (hate, division, ignorance) from Donhou and Kibosh.
Now that may not be true- but to a first time visitor (me) to Kibosh, that’s the perception.
Perception is reality until such a time as that perception is corrected- which in this case would be Kibosh and Donhou making their position known, and known in such a way that it wasn’t open to interpretation- for e.g. “we are sorry that you are offended” type bollocks.
Dammit-
I know Kibosh from Neil P, who's raced TCR. I know of Donhou from here - speed record bike, no?
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Neil here, one of Kibosh.
Sorry that you've interpreted a collaboration as sponsorship or that doing so with a brand has meant we are interpreted to have the same views as their personal views. Not here to defend Thom, he's more than capable of doing that himself, although he's always been a very decent chap when I've shared a pint with him.
We are a small team, we make some of our own merch to try and raise money for kit etc. Mamnick is a collab not sponsorship, we chose to do something with him to help earn a very small amount of money to contribute to the coffers. Insinuating that because we chose to do this, pulls Donhou in to equation is wrong on so many levels. Most of the guys that ride for the team don't really have time to look at or care too much about other peoples political views, rightly or wrongly. More take their own judgement from real life meetings. We'd prefer to spend our time riding, racing, working full time jobs and being as nice to everyone we can be.
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I understand completely and would absolutely think the same if I didn't know the team.
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I can't see that? The partners or sponsors have been the same since the beginning. Donny is a member of the team. http://www.kiboshracing.co.uk/sponsors/
For clarity, the Kibosh and Mamnick link is a collaboration bobble hat that was made recently. I've made the guys aware of this thread.